We tested both .357 Sig and 9mm loads. Released in 1993, the M47 Medusa has a unique cylinder with chambers that can load a hundred different handgun and revolver calibers, i.e. The round was developed with one goal in mind: Push a 125-grain 9mm projectile to the same velocity - or so close that it makes no difference - as a 125-grain .357 Magnum projectile, when either was fired from a 4-inch barrel. If you factor in that some states have a magazine ban of anything over ten rounds, and there are some .357 revolvers out there like the Smith & Wesson 627 and the Taurus 608, then the ammunition capacity starts to close the gap. It was created specifically for the. Jacketed hollow point 9mm bullets will expand much sooner than expected when fired from .357 SIG brass, resulting in less penetration. U.S. Secret Service (USSS) and U.S. Coast Guard (USCG). This is 326 foot-pounds in excess of the original .357 SIG load’s muzzle energy, or a difference of 55.91% in favor of the .357 Magnum. A 357 SIG 125 gr JHP from a Glock 31 at 1425 fps or A 45 Auto 185 gr JHP from any 1911 at 1150 fps or ... but the 125g .357 magnum just seems to have such a wicked effect on humans, and the 125g .357Sig does seem to duplicate that effect in a semi round. But this doesn’t automatically mean any bullet intended for 9mm brass can be used for .357 SIG when reloading. I’ve personally read. But I digress. He would also commission. The 10mm would then fade to near obsolescence. Later that same year, Norma Precision started producing the 10mm. From the late 1920s to early 1930s, the two gentlemen experimented with various bullet and powder types and weights, little by little pushing the .38 Special cartridge case well beyond its established pressure limits. By comparison, there are countless companies manufacturing revolvers (take a look at, I wrote if you want to know what options are available to you) and lever-action rifles chambered for the .357 Magnum. The round is also referred to as the .357 SIG, .357 Sig, and 9x22mm..357 SIG vs. .357 Magnum When comparing two similar-weight guns shooting cartridges with similar ballistics, if one is a semi-auto and the other is a revolver, the semi-auto will have noticeably less recoil, giving it a speed advantage as far as target acquisition and follow-up shots. You can use full-metal jacket and hard cast lead bullets, but not jacketed hollow points. Here’s a quick list of 357 SIG vs 357 Magnum: It’s interesting to note that both the cheapest and the most expensive guns on the list are chambered in the .357 Magnum (the Glock 31 is currently priced the same as the Taurus 692 but the latter’s street price is typically much lower than what it retails for). The Heavy Duty would later sport a longer barrel and be labeled the .38-44 Outdoorsman. It centered around a cartridge that would outperform the .45 ACP using a 200-grain, .40-caliber bullet seated in a straight-walled rimless cartridge for use in a semi-automatic pistol with a nominal 5-inch barrel. With everything loaded in, the overall length of the cartridge went up to only 1.26 inches — a few hundredths of an inch shorter than the .45 ACP, making it suitable for use in magazine-fed semi-autos. he idea of the 10mm cartridge was originally conceived by Jeff Cooper, himself a .45 ACP purist, in 1983. Gone are the days when magnum revolvers reigned as the supreme everyday carry handgun for civilians, law enforcers and medium game hunters, when high-capacity magazine-fed semi-autos were just a figment of some random gun nut’s imagination. But it’s nowhere near as great as it used to be.eval(ez_write_tag([[250,250],'gunnewsdaily_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_11',112,'0','0']));eval(ez_write_tag([[250,250],'gunnewsdaily_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_12',112,'0','1'])); As mentioned earlier, in the late 1960’s, 9mm handgun models with staggered-column magazines were starting to creep their way into the police and civilian markets which were then largely dominated by the 1911 chambered in either .45 ACP or .38 Super and six-shot revolvers chambered in .357 Magnum. I admit I am a novice. A semi-auto handgun by design has a recoil spring that utilizes some of the force of the recoil (i.e. Meanwhile, Phil Sharpe continued with his own hot loads development. Ultimately this would result in Smith and Wesson developing the .40 S&W in 1989, the “short and weak” offspring of the 10mm that would ironically cast a shadow over its more powerful parent cartridge. Despite its age the .357 Magnum has the knockdown and the pedigree to justify its place in the realm of personal defense against this newcomer that is little more than a pretender to the throne. From the chart above you can see that while the .357 Magnum offerings have higher muzzle energies compared to their .357 SIG counterparts, they’re also a lot cheaper. It would be nice to carry that caliber in a semi-auto but I shied away from 357 SIG because of the high cost of commercial ammo and reports of it being a problematic cartridge to reload. Yes, I know the world of firearms has moved on. That is in factory loads. And speaking of versatility…. Whether or not it’s a successful attempt depends on one’s definition of success. Small-frame revolvers can be easily concealed while medium frames can be a challenge. Cons: Essentially, the .357 SIG is a round that uses the same sized bullet as a 9mm round but in a cartridge casing that is similar to a .40 caliber case. Keith’s efforts proved that the .38-44 Heavy Duty and Outdoorsman N-frame revolvers could safely chamber and shoot much more powerful .38 Special cartridges than the ones Remington manufactured. Modern semi-auto handguns usually have more than double the ammo capacity of conventional revolvers; There is no forcing cone velocity loss in a semi-auto because it doesn’t have a forcing one. This means there is no gap between the semi-auto’s chamber and barrel. and law enforcement agencies, some of which are: Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), Customs and Border Protection (CBP), Federal Protection Service (FPS), Federal Air Marshal Service (FAMS). See how these pistol red dots perform for accuracy and self-defense. Skribs, Dec 11, 2012 #6. It looks rather boring but we’ll need it to see the bigger picture later on: Unlike the .357 Magnum, the .357 SIG’s bullet diameter doesn’t exactly measure three-hundred fifty-seven thousandths of an inch. The Registered Magnum, chambered for the powerful new cartridge developed by Phil Sharpe and manufactured by Winchester — the .357 Magnum. Currently, civilians still prefer it over any other handgun for home defense (mainly as a nightstand gun), as a truck gun, trail gun, tackle box gun, or as a backup gun when hunting dangerous game. Capital Cartridge offers once-fired brass to make very reloader's day. You can also use the .38 Spl in rifles or handguns chambered in the .357 Magnum. A little pistol with a solid pedigree, the new FN 503 9mm sub-compact lived up to its family name in testing and is a solid every day carry gun. Both platforms allow for a dual-caliber setup, but one is more expensive than the other. , who was then a newcomer (but would later become a respected name) in the bullet mold-making industry, to make custom molds for his lead bullets that were inspired by Elmer Keith’s earlier designs. This is because the .357 SIG will push a 9mm Parabellum bullet much faster and with more energy, changing its terminal performance for the worse. In came former U.S. marine and handguns expert Lt. Col. John Dean “Jeff” Cooper. In a smaller gun like the Glock 33 you have a wonderful little concealed carry piece with nine rounds in the magazine. The three collaborated, with the two businessmen on the engineering side of things and the handguns expert acting as an independent consultant. In 1986, the FBI included the 10mm Auto in their handgun ammo tests as a possible replacement for their then standard issue 9mm after two of their agents were killed and a few others were severely wounded during what is today considered one of the bloodiest armed confrontations in the history of law enforcement: This event pushed many ammo manufacturers to produce 10mm FBI loads (or “10mm Lite” as older folks call it). There’s a silver lining though. In response, Remington developed a hot .38 Special load for use in these large revolvers and branded it the High-Speed .38 Special. But we won’t recommend that you make a decision based on firearms pricing — especially if you intend to visit the range often, in which case you should prioritize ammo cost over anything. But what it all boils down to is what you’re going to purchase a gun for. This is 309 foot-pounds greater than Double Tap’s .357 SIG Hardcast Solid, or a difference of 70.06% in favor, again, of the .357 Magnum. Sig 357 autos are not a pain in the hand to shoot. The difference is the powder behind the bullet. lbs). But he has yet to make up his mind on whether or not he should get one, because he’s already got a, That, and some people on the Internet say that the .357 SIG, being it was made to duplicate the ballistics of the .357 Magnum, is as powerful, if not more. Recently, one of our readers (let’s call him Bob) emailed me with a rather commonly asked question on a much debated topic, one I usually shy away from because there are just too many arguments surrounding it (and I’m sure a few of our wheelgun-loving regulars know of my biases as far as handgun calibers is concerned)…. wheelguns that come with two cylinders out of the box: one for .357 Magnum/.38 Special, another for 9mm Parabellum. The heaviest bullet available on any factory .357 Magnum loading is a hard cast lead wide flat nose that weighs 200 grains. If you don’t like revolvers but you want to shoot full-power 357 Magnum rounds, you can get a Coonan pistol. Underwood Ammo 357 Magnum 158 Grain Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point Muzzle Velocity – 1500 fps Muzzle Energy – 789 ft. lbs. Review: Pint-Sized FN 503 After 1,000 Rounds. While the fastest single load—a red-hot 125-grain JHP—was a .357 Mag., the average velocity of all .357 Mag… We all thought it would never be brought back to life! The .357 SIG can also be loaded to higher pressures than the .40 S&W. Out of a 6-inch barrel, the bullet flies at a velocity of 1,600 feet per second, producing a muzzle energy of around 909 foot-pounds of force. It has an advertised velocity 1,050 and will produce a muzzle energy of 441 foot-pounds of force. Not too shabby partner but against the .357 Magnum the .357 Sig is still lacking, and that’s where the old revolver cartridge really wins hands down. The cartridge case had to be lengthened a little so it wouldn’t chamber in any .38 Special revolver. Currently, civilians still prefer it over any other handgun for home defense (mainly as a nightstand gun), as a truck gun, trail gun, tackle box gun, or as a backup gun when hunting dangerous game. There’s a silver lining though. The .357 SIG round was designed to replicate and replace the ballistics of the .357 Magnum for semi-automatic pistols. The 9mm cartridge wasn’t anywhere near as common or as popular as it is now. Today these 9mm handguns have become the de facto standard in law enforcement sidearms, but back in the days, they were affectionately referred to as the Wonder Nines. A lot of that has to do with its bottle… It was created specifically for the SIG P229 with the necked-down brass having more than enough strength to handle the pressure levels generated by duplicating the ballistics of Federal’s 125-grain .357 Magnum load. Pros and cons of the .357 Magnum and .357 SIG: Pros: Exceed FBI test standards for penetration. The .357 Sig was desigend to address a very real problem, the problem of a non-ezistant handgun cartridge that is a very effective manstopper in all cases, conditions and situations. In my velocity testing using five different .357 Sig pistols, a Sig Sauer P229, P226, P320, Glock 32, and Glock 31, I’ve gotten pretty darn close with a number of loads using 125-grain bullets. claiming that the .357 Sig can be even more powerful than the .357 Magnum (I have great respect for the guy and his works — very few people can do revolver customization the way he does — but his claim is a hard pill to swallow). He had long ago made the decision not to purchase a revolver chambered for the former. This new shooting platform instantly dethroned Colt’s 1911 in .38 Super and became the most powerful handgun in the world, as Sharpe’s 160-grain solid bullets were reportedly able to achieve previously unheard of velocities of anywhere between 1,500 and 1,600 feet per second out of a revolver. Not much is known about the .357 SIG’s early development except that it was a result of a collaboration between SIG Sauer and Federal. Guns chambered for the .357 SIG typically have room for up to twice the number of rounds in a single reload. Get Guns.com offers and news, Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 ©2019 Guns.com. Enter the firm of Sig-Sauer who took the .40 S & W cartridge and necked the case down to .355 inches. The .357 Sig , performs NEAR the same ballistically as the .357 Rem. About Us | Write For Us | Advertise| Terms and Conditions | Privacy Policy | Disclaimer Policy And FTC Affiliate Disclosure |. Colt, after being tight-lipped about one of their biggest snake gun resurrection projects for the last five years, has finally unveiled what many consider to be their most respected revolver from what seemed like a lifetime ago: the, Recently, one of our readers (let’s call him Bob) emailed me with a rather commonly asked question on a much debated topic, one I usually shy away from because there are just too many arguments surrounding it (and I’m sure a few of our wheelgun-loving regulars know of my biases as far as handgun calibers, Bob didn’t sound like the type who’s into debates. The cartridge looks distinctive. These handguns were chambered in 9mm Parabellum, used staggered-column magazines that allowed for higher ammo capacity compared to standard semi-autos of old, and could be fired without having to rack the slide. N-frame revolvers could safely chamber and shoot much more powerful .38 Special cartridges than the ones Remington manufactured. But at the end of this one article, Dr. Roberts breaks into editorial mode and he says, “Compared to a 9mm, the .357 Sig has a decreased magazine capacity, more recoil, as well as greater muzzle blast and flash, yet at best it offers no gain in bullet penetration and expansion characteristics. Rows 2 and 5 represent the cheapest ammo for practice drills; rows 3 and 6 represent the most affordable carry ammo for your CCW; and rows 4 and 7 represent the hottest commercially produced loads on the market that you can use for hunting up to medium-size game, e.g. But he has yet to make up his mind on whether or not he should get one, because he’s already got a Glock 31. Having no prior experience as far as developing hot loads for existing handgun cartridges, they asked for expert advice on the subject. It’s official. Better yet, get a lever-action rifle in that caliber. I just learned about the difference between these two cartridges. It’s much faster to draw a semi-auto handgun from an. Not too long after, SIG Sauer, at the time an emerging leader in handguns manufacture and design (thanks to their entry that passed the highly controversial XM9 and XM10 Trials, the SIG P226), did their own version of the .40 S&W, except after cutting down the 10mm’s brass, they necked it down to accept a .355-caliber projectile. But the aforementioned Colt Python’s resurrection got him a bit interested again — he’s just not 100% convinced  that he needs one just yet (and news of current production Pythons having issues with the cylinder clockwork isn’t making things easy for him too). This platform works so well that the French Spec Ops of the 1970s outfitted some of their Manurhin service revolvers with a tripod and scope for use, Yes, you read that right. You can use .38 Special in a .357 magnum gun, but not 357 SIG Adding to the above, the compatibility of .38 Special and .357 Magnum. I started shooting 357 Mag revolvers in 1967. It was a game changer, but as far as enthusiasts were concerned, it was just another wildcat cartridge. But it’s nowhere near as great as it used to be. Just so we have this area covered, the .357 SIG handgun with the highest round count is a. with a 15-round mag. 10mm vs. 357 Mag Muzzle Energy. Basic difference seems to be that the sig was developed for LEOs to use in their new-fangled semi-automatics as they switched over from revolvers. They chose to modify .30 Remington brass by putting a 45-degree extractor groove under the case head and cutting it to 0.99 inch length. Even so, recoil calculated in this manner is only the starting point in a comparison with the .357 Magnum cartridge, since the latter is used in a revolver, in which the recoil energy is due to the bullet and propellant less ejecta escaping through the cylinder gap, while the .357 SIG cartridge is used in a semi-automatic pistol with recoil operation; here, a significant portion of the recoil energy is diverted to cycle the … whitetail and hog. But the aforementioned Colt Python’s resurrection got him a bit interested again — he’s just not 100% convinced  that he needs one just yet (and news of current production, If you’re like Bob (and I’m sure some of you are), that is, you’re looking to get a revolver chambered for the .357 Magnum but you’re not sure whether you should because you already have a handgun in, A year after, they manufactured new N-frame revolvers (originally built for their .44 Special) and chambered those for their .38 Special, labeling them the, This platform showed promise, but a growing community of individuals passionate about the .38 Special knew that the .38 Special was capable of so much more. This makes the .357 Magnum more affordable, more accessible, and consequently more versatile than the .357 SIG as a  shooting platform. These numbers produce a muzzle energy of around 583 foot-pounds of force. But no handgun at the time could handle such a powerful cartridge. The FBI’s Firearms Testing Unit (FTU) found the recoil a little too much to handle especially for agents with smaller stature. Let’s take a look at terminal ballistics. I have been reading for over an hour about them. Comparing the .357 Sig vs 9mm, both ammo essentially has the same size. by around 60 feet per second). Glock Gen 4 Model 31 357 Sig. ” on criminals who were hit in non-vital body parts — it just stopped them on their tracks as if they were struck by lightning. 357 Sig is a small, bottlenecked, rimless case using 9mm bullets, a couple thousandths smaller. They down-loaded the cartridge to lower velocities but even in its crippled version, it still outperformed its competing calibers. It has something for everyone, even those who hate revolvers. Bonded jacketed hollow point bullets will also exhibit core-jacket separation. The original Phil Sharpe loading for the .357 Magnum called for a 160-grain .357-inch diameter hard cast lead bullet. Having no prior experience as far as developing hot loads for existing handgun cartridges, they asked for expert advice on the subject. That, and some people on the Internet say that the .357 SIG, being it was made to duplicate the ballistics of the .357 Magnum, is as powerful, if not more. Not much is known about the .357 SIG’s early development except that it was a result of a collaboration between SIG Sauer and Federal. Bonded jacketed hollow point bullets will also exhibit core-jacket separation. The 357 SIG was created in conjunction by SIG Sauerand Federal Premium and introduced for sale in 1994. The .357 Magnum is a rimmed cartridge suitable for use in revolvers but its design does not allow reliable feeding in a semi-automatic pistol. These guns changed the landscape, practically pushing the concept of law enforcement revolver use to obsolescence. The FBI returned to the .357 Magnum with the adoption of the fixed sight Model 13 revolver, still a desirable gun on the secondary market today. Things don’t fare any better for the Sig when the larger bullets are used, the 147 grain XTP round is traveling at 1,225 fps and 490 ft lbs while the 158 grain .357 Magnum Hornady XTP does better at 1,250 fps and 548 ft lbs. Two of them, Phil Sharpe and Elmer Keith, set out to develop their own hot-loaded versions of the.38 Special. We may earn a commission when you purchase through one of our links. Since 2001, we have provided the latest in gun rights news, tech reviews and product information. If you don’t like revolvers but you want to shoot full-power 357 Magnum rounds, you can get a Coonan pistol. While the fastest single load—a red-hot 125-grain JHP—was a .357 Mag., the average velocity of all .357 Mag. With the advent of the polymer frame pistols, many manufacturers sought to create the best balance of power, controllability, and ammunition capacity. Keith’s creation had to get the nod from Smith & Wesson and Remington for it to go mainstream. My first experience with the .357 SIG was very positive. eval(ez_write_tag([[300,250],'gunnewsdaily_com-banner-1','ezslot_7',122,'0','0'])); Similarly, all .357 Magnum revolvers will shoot .38 Special out of the box, with one exception: the M47 Medusa. has a unique cylinder with chambers that can load a hundred different handgun and revolver calibers, i.e. The only reason he had to ask was, for the longest time, he has been thinking of getting a revolver in .357 Magnum. Because of the platform’s advantages, the P229 chambered for .357 SIG was adopted as the standard issue sidearm (and is still in use today) by. Two of them, Phil Sharpe and, Keith’s efforts proved that the .38-44 Heavy Duty and. Multi-caliber .357 Magnum revolvers have been seeing a resurgence in the past couple of years, i.e. Handguns for the .357 SIG are mainly for law enforcement and concealed carry in urban environments but can be called upon in a pinch if you’re out hunting and your main rifle fails and you really need something to defend yourself with against things like black bear (it has to be said though: I would only recommend the .357 SIG for that purpose if you don’t have a more powerful handgun for backup). The .357 Magnum Hornady 125 grain XTP bullet averages 1,500 fps and 624 ft lbs of energy while the 124 grain XTP .357 Sig round turns out 1,350 fps and 502 ft lbs. Comparing ballistic performance, versatility, firearms and ammo availability and pricing, the .357 Magnum reigns supreme over the .357 SIG and many other handgun calibers on both the civilian and law enforcement market today. It’s official. Why, you ask? As for me. But it’s one odd duck in the revolver world that very few cared about so after making five hundred pieces, the manufacturer had to discontinue production. This event pushed many ammo manufacturers to produce 10mm FBI loads (or “10mm Lite” as older folks call it). It Is just revolver vs. semi-automatic. . The businessmen needed the ammo mass-produced so they approached a few ammunition makers but were turned down by every single one of them — except by FFV Norma AB (now Norma Precision), a Swedish ammunition manufacturer. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Not too long after, many different .357 Magnum loads were being developed by ammo manufacturers — loads that were. The 125 gr .357 Rem mag at muzzle has 1450 fps and 583 pounds of energy. I think if you want to choose between .357 sig and .40, I'd go with the .40. But strangely, the caliber never caught on in the civilian market in terms of popularity. compared to Keith’s and Sharpe’s original loads but were still more than good enough for law enforcement use. U.S. Secret Service (USSS) and U.S. Coast Guard (USCG). Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or jacketing type. The Model 27 became an overnight success, even with its initial unrealistically high price with both law enforcement and civilians. Why should you choose an AR pistol or AR rifle? I think that 9mm SIG would have went over like a lead Zeppelin so the .357 SIG moniker was chosen, obviously to play upon the legendary .357 Magnum. Multi-caliber .357 Magnum revolvers have been seeing a resurgence in the past couple of years, i.e. This is one of the reasons why .357 SIG factory ammo is more expensive compared to its weaker 9mm brethren, which brings us to everyone’s favorite topic: Price. Not to belabor the previous point, but no matter how plentiful 9mm bullets could be, 357 SIG ammo for self defense can’t be manufactured cheaply because as mentioned, the caliber requires its own uniquely manufactured bonded jacketed hollow points. Afterward, they went to Sierra to make .40-inch diameter 200-grain bullets and had John Donnelly (a friend of Jeff Cooper’s) handload the first 100 cartridges using those bullets. .357 Sig vs. 9mm Terminal Ballistics. Not too long after, many different .357 Magnum loads were being developed by ammo manufacturers — loads that were noticeably becoming weaker compared to Keith’s and Sharpe’s original loads but were still more than good enough for law enforcement use. The .357 Magnum is a powerful cartridge, but in this case it takes a narrow 2nd place to the 10mm Auto. Sw 686 is ok, but, short barrel 357 revolvers are painful to shoot. Getting down to the nitty gritty, the .357 Sig was a fantastic idea on paper, but like so many good ideas in concept in the real world it just didn’t pan out for the better when you can get the same size pistol in .40 S & W. Factor that in when you put it toe to toe against the .357 Magnum, which has a well deserved reputation as a manstopper, and it clearly loses in every category that matters. Revolvers chambered for the .357 Magnum come in all shapes and sizes. Back to the .357 SIG, the heaviest bullet commercially available at the moment is Double Tap’s 180-grain Hardcast Solid. that will hold up to eight rounds of .357 Magnum. This new shooting platform instantly dethroned Colt’s 1911 in .38 Super and became the most powerful handgun in the world, as Sharpe’s 160-grain solid bullets were reportedly able to achieve previously unheard of velocities of anywhere between, The Model 27 became an overnight success, even with its initial unrealistically high price with both law enforcement and civilians. By virtue of its flat profile, a semi-auto doesn’t require too much effort to carry concealed, The revolver’s cylinder on the other hand has a bulging profile that easily prints, making it a bit harder to conceal. When this article was written, the lowest per-round cost for a .357 Magnum was $.24, while the .357 SIG was $.37. 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